Tonight, Friday, May 10, 2013, North Coast Calvary Chapel, one of the largest CC’s in San Diego, will host 3 anti-Israel speakers. http://www.worldviewweekend.com/news/article/calvary-chapel-breached The NCCC FB wall had a post that said, “Life is full of surprises, but God is faithful.” This was my response:
Yes, I was quite surprised to see NCCC hosting 3 anti-Israel speakers under the guise of “caring deeply about God’s heart.” Not much different from how these same folks take over Hollywood and Academia under the guise of human rights – they just change the clothes. Yes, that is their goal, to erode the last bastion of traditional, strong support for Israel – conservative evangelicals. This is an important part of the Emergent’s and Purpose Driven‘s world religion plan: to replace Christian Zionism with Christian Palestinianism. I am sure this is a key point of RW’s 3-point plan to make nice between Christians and Muslims. Yes, God is faithful. Gen 12:3, Psalm 129:5. Let’s see how long it takes for this to be deleted.
Here are some posts I made on Jan Markell, of Olive Tree Ministries’, FB wall. Thank you Jan for being willing to put your head on the block in standing up for Israel. This is an important discussion below:
Tama Hinckley We know that most Calvary Chapels are Pro-Israel–we worship with them and went to Israel with Tri-City Calvary Chapel! Thank God that most are pro-Israel still! Just praying that this serves to warn those who are unaware that the enemy is getting into the camp–so to speak. Thank you again, Jan!
Claire Friedman Bennett Jan, thank you for speaking up and accepting that you may face retaliation. While most CC’s are pro-Israel NOW, it is only a matter of time before this propaganda infiltrates here also. The Emergent Church, which has made major headway into CC, is hostile to Israel and I can imagine that RW’s 3-point plan to make nice with Muslims involves eroding the traditional strong support for Israel among Evangelicals. The Israel haters take their propaganda to Hollywood and Academia under the guise of “human rights,” then they change their clothes and take the same propaganda to churches under the guise of “loving Jesus.” Fletcher is right, the old guard is dying out, to be replaced by a new breed that will be swept away by the strong delusion.
Terry Milford Please don’t throw away a respected and appreciated ministry of 40 years in the toilet because 1 pastor out of 2000 Calvary pastors decides to go off the reservation on a single issue, possibly even unintentionally. Someone should have done an hours worth of research to find that Calvary Chapel as a whole remains committed to Israel. Geez, this internet stuff can be so damaging sometimes. Lord help us.
Deedra Swan Suggestion… Here is the e-mail address of the North Coast Calvary Chapel that is hosing this. Take some action and send them an e-mail stating your comment is a PROPER way. Do something more than just voicing your frustration please. Go make a difference!! I will be sending my e-mail in a minute! email@example.com
Claire Friedman Bennett A number of respected ministries can provide you with info, that is, if you really want to see it: Lighthouse Trails, Roger Oakland, Apprising Ministries and The Truth Under Fire are a few. Paul Smith, Chuck Smith’s brother got fired for writing a book that outed Emergent and Contemplative Spirituality in CC. Ecumenism is also making headway; its all part of the package. Check out the bookstore offerings at the local CC’s and find out what speakers and course offerings you find. You can always just google, “Calvary Chapel Emergent,” and check out the links. I suggest that those opposed to the deceitful Palestinian love fest call CCNC and post on their FB. And I have to politely disagree with Jan that these speakers are sincere but misguided Christians. They are liberal emergent wolves in evangelical’s clothing. But as upsetting as all this is, we shouldn’t be surprised or dismayed, because scripture foretells all of this. Those of us who stand for the truth and stand with Israel will be marginalized and treated as fringe extremists. Ex. 23:2 “You shall not follow the masses in doing evil, nor shall you testify in a dispute so as to turn aside after a multitude in order to pervert justice;
Terry Milford Your assumption about Paul Smith couldn’t be further from the truth. That speculation is the type of garbage the unaccountable, rat patrols like lighthouse put out that do nothing but undermine a true work of God. I agree that those who stand for truth are being marginalized….. by these quacks.
Robyn Chaya Attwell Has anyone thought to contack Chuck Smith Sr. himself about this? I’m sure he would be more than interested to hear about it. And Terry Milford, if “1 pastor out of 2000 Calvary pastors decides to go off the reservation on a single issue,” then what is to stop others from doing the same? That is the proverbial rotten apple spoiling the bushel. I suggest you do some research yourself regarding the dangerous lies being propagated by Christian Palestinianism, which is what this is all about. This is a good place to start.
Claire Friedman Bennett @Terry, I suggest reading “Faith Undone,” by Roger Oakland and, “A Time of Departing,” by Ray Yungen (and there are numerous other works) before you go around calling someone a rat patrol or a quack. Look at the evidence before you commence an ad hominem attack because you lack a legitimate argument, as so many do. In other words, rather than call names, you can say, “He said X and I know X is untrue because I have Y evidence.” A discernment ministry, in order to be a voice of truth in these perilous times, cannot be financially or politically beholden to any particular camp. One of the rules of “the camp,” is that you are free to throw stones at those outside your camp, but you don’t dare discern yourself or the hands that feed you. I am not a member of a CC, but I am in contact with several who are, and can tell you that there are those that seek to be true to scripture and those who are infiltrated with teachings of emergents, contemplative practices, ecumenicalism, and Purpose Driven, which is really just the face of the strong delusion, the great falling away. As mentioned, it is not difficult to discover what books are sold (and not sold) in CC bookstores, what teachers and programs are offered and what people are saying. This group; Sami Awad, Lynn Hybels and Mae Cannon, are doing a US tour through churches and Christian colleges (as Jan mentioned occurred with her alma mater) to be change agents in moving the faithful from Christian Zionism to Christian Palestinianism. While the voices of the pro-Palestinian movement are strident and aggressive on campus and other areas of public life; in Christian venues they are sweet and gentle. They claim, “love Israel, love the Palestinians, love Jesus (a different Jesus.) No, we should love the truth which is in our word. CCNC had to already have their tents pitched toward the Emergent Sodom, even to have considered this group. My belief is that after the passing of Chuck Sr., CC will fall, and government pressure will be a part of this. Ministries that have property and assets will be targeted, and many will choose mammon over God. I believe there will be a faithful remnant. Thanks for not deleting my post Jan
Claire Friedman Bennett Recently, the hate Israel faction spread a photo on social media that apparently depicted an IDF soldier beating up a poor Palestinian lying on the ground. But the picture was photoshopped, and what it edited out was that the poor Palestinian lying on the ground was laying on top of an Israeli solider with his hands around his throat. The Christian Palestinianism movement is the same; presenting a false picture to generate an emotional response.
Claire Friedman Bennett @Terry, unintentionally? Just to let you guys know, NCCC deleted my warning post from its FB wall. Surprise, surprise. What does that tell you? I suppose I am just a quack rat patrol out to undermine a true work of God. That I am Jewish should give you a clue to my bias. I would like my son to be able to finish his studies at his California University, and that my younger son have the same educational opportunities, but with the way things are now, who knows?
Siofu Anitero here’s a video from last night of Chuck Smith and Don Stewart (‘World News Briefing’) addressing NCCC’s choice of guests (starts after beginning of video), reaffirming position in support of Gods Truth and Israel, independence of each Calvary (incorporated and not a denomination) and latest update on current world affairs related to endtime prophecy. —- http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=82fqvI8AMP4
Claire Friedman Bennett Siofu, thank you, I tried to get through on Pastor’s Perspective, but the lines were busy, and perhaps they wouldn’t have taken my call anyway. I will look at the video in my copious free time. But here is the rub with the “independence,” of each CC: Chuck Sr. kicked his own son out of CC for his emergent teachings, and I am sure others have been kicked out for various reasons. But turning on Israel is not sufficient reason to shun a large and popular CC franchise. My take is that CC leadership wishes this would all just go away. If Jim Fletcher hadn’t written this article, and Brannon Howse hadn’t promoted it, this would have all been swept under the table. No one affiliated with CC would have been willing to out this infestation. Oh, they could criticize the Christian Palestinianism movement, but not link it to a CC. Heads would roll if any lower food chain CC pastor dared to question one of the stars. To ally oneself with the wicked is to take on their judgement. Chose this day who you will serve.This is from an email from Olive Tree Ministries, regarding Jan Markell’s experience with the same wicked trio that appeared at her alma mater:Note from Jan: My thanks to Jim Fletcher for backing up a story I reported on last September — the Sami Awad, Lynne Hybels, World Vision “pro peace, pro Jesus” rallies that exist to denounce Israel. I attended one at my alma mater, Bethel University in St. Paul, MN last fall.
I am a respecter of Calvary Chapel. We have several here in the Midwest. Almost without exception, they are pro Israel. Several pastors have contacted me with their dismay. It is still it disheartening to see one caving to the Awad/Hybels/World Vision Express that will further diminish evangelical support for a pretty friendless nation: Israel.
At the event I attended at Bethel University, debate was not welcomed and truth was in short commodity. I can only assume the same will be on display at the event highlighted below.
Learn more about Jim Fletcher at www.prophecymatters.com.
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